Inventing SURGE PRICING with Kevin Novak - Episode 11

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🚨 The Physicist Who Invented Surge Pricing

Kevin Novak didn’t set out to change the way cities move.

He was studying nuclear physics. A data nerd with no tech résumé. No startup experience. His first Uber interview? He showed up in a wrinkled suit.

But he asked good questions. A few weeks later, he was hired by Travis Kalanick to solve a problem no one had cracked:

“How do we get more drivers on the road, exactly when demand spikes?”

Kevin didn’t just answer the question.
He invented surge pricing — a feature that would go on to become one of Uber’s most famous, hated, and important tools for managing its two-sided marketplace.

What most people don’t know:

The first night surge pricing went live?
It almost broke the company. It was the infamous New Years 2012…

Riders were furious.
Customer support was flooded.
Screens didn’t load.
The ops team was melting down.
And Kevin… was working the phones doing support himself.

What we cover in this episode:

• The real backstory of surge pricing — and why it nearly failed
• How Kevin built Uber’s data team from scratch
• What it was like working directly with Travis in the early chaos
• Why data science became the heartbeat of Uber 1.0
• Lessons on speed, culture, and making decisions when nothing exists
• What Kevin looks for now as a VC at Rackhouse

This episode isn’t just about one feature.
It’s about building under pressure.
Creating clarity in chaos.
And turning raw math into something that moves millions of people every day.

Kevin’s story is nerdy, intense, and surprisingly funny.
Hope you enjoy this one as much as I did.

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